Sunday, November 5th, 2023 Roundtable

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Morning Prayers

Human will may trespass on divine law; corporeal sense may hide health, and truth, as the mist obscures the mountain; but Science subordinates human will and is the sunshine of Truth which melts the shadow and reveals the substance. Follow my teachings only so far as they follow Christ’s in word and deed.

— from Divinity Course and General Collectanea, (the “Blue Book”), by Mary Baker Eddy, page 173

Take courage, dear reader, for any seeming mysticism surrounding realism is explained in the Scripture, “There went up a mist from the earth [matter];” and the mist of materialism will vanish as we approach spirituality, the realm of reality; cleanse our lives in Christ’s righteousness; bathe in the baptism of Spirit, and awake in His likeness.

— from Miscellaneous Writings, by Mary Baker Eddy, page 30

Discussion points

474 — WATCH lest you cherish the desire to throw off the outward practice of sin, so that you may look at your human selfhood with satisfaction, feeling that it is acceptable to God and man. Such a desire may start a worker on the right path, but it must be outgrown, since a human sense is never acceptable to God, no matter how purified it may be.

We desire purity in Science only that we may reflect God. We overcome sin so that we may have a constant consciousness of man’s unity with God. If mortal man through Science is able to reach the point, where he can begin to regard his belief in material selfhood with satisfaction because it is so well-behaved and good, he is liable to indulge in self-righteousness, which in God’s sight is worse than what the world calls outward sin, because it suggests a false achievement.

— from 500 Watching Points by Gilbert Carpenter

GOLDEN TEXT: Job 15 : 7

“Art thou the first man that was born? or wast thou made before the hills?”

Mary Baker Eddy always told her students to emulate the life and character of Jesus. At one time she told a student, “If you would be a good healer, study the life of Jesus.”

— from The Healer, by David Keyston, page vii

“How I Was Healed”, from The Christian Science Journal, June 1893 by John C. Schooley

Has man fallen from a state of perfection?

If God is the Principle of man (and He is), man is the idea of God; and this idea cannot fail to express the exact nature of its Principle, — any more than goodness, to present the quality of good. Human hypotheses are always human vagaries, formulated views antagonistic to the divine order and the nature of Deity. All these mortal beliefs will be purged and dissolved in the crucible of Truth, and the places once knowing them will know them no more forever, having been swept clean by the winds of history. The grand verities of Science will sift the chaff from the wheat, until it is clear to human comprehension that man was, and is, God’s perfect likeness, that reflects all whereby we can know God. In Him we live, move, and have being. Man’s origin and existence being in Him, man is the ultimatum of perfection, and by no means the medium of imperfection. Immortal man is the eternal idea of Truth, that cannot lapse into a mortal belief or error concerning himself and his origin: he cannot get out of the focal distance of infinity. If God is upright and eternal, man as His likeness is erect in goodness and perpetual in Life, Truth, and Love. If the great cause is perfect, its effect is perfect also; and cause and effect in Science are immutable and immortal. A mortal who is sinning, sick, and dying, is not immortal man; and never was, and never can be, God’s image and likeness, the true ideal of immortal man’s divine Principle. The spiritual man is that perfect and unfallen likeness, coexistent and coeternal with God. “As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.”

— from Miscellaneous Writings by Mary Baker Eddy, page 78-79

“Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.”…

One of the things which Christian Science seeks constantly to impress upon its students, is that there is no resting-place in matter. This Science clearly teaches that matter, or material consciousness, is but the Adamic dream from which all mortals must awaken before peace and happiness can be attained. When one is convinced of the truth of this statement, there is seen to be but one real business in life, namely, the continuous effort to awaken one’s self and others to a consciousness of the real universe of God’s creation. Accompanying this conviction comes a quickened condition of thought which realizes the foolishness and danger of dillydallying by the way, and thereby prolonging the dream of life and intelligence in matter…

Those who are convinced through Christian Science that the real business of human experience is to awaken from mortality’s dream, make no compromise with error, have no time or inclination to gossip or listen to slander, have no surplus time to kill in foolish amusement or frivolity, but on the contrary deem every moment precious and an important factor in life’s problem. “With Christ,” Mrs. Eddy declares, “Life was not merely a sense of existence, but a sense of might and ability to subdue material conditions” (Unity of Good, p. 42), and on page 56 of the same volume she points out the landmarks which indicate progress in this overcoming. To experience such progress, it is well for one constantly to observe the admonition of the Founder of Christian Science, she who discovered the way of awakening from the Adamic dream. “To understand God,” she tells us, “is the work of eternity, and demands absolute consecration of thought, energy, and desire” (Science and Health, p. 3).

“The Dream Dispelled” (excerpt) from The Christian Science Sentinel, September 26, 1914 by William E. Brown

Christian Science teaches that sleep, apathy, mesmerism, the Adam-dream, darkness, disease, death, hypnotism, and illusion are all phases of the belief in another life than God. The sleep in the garden of Gethsemane was the prelude to the crucifixion on Calvary. One of the shortest sentences in Science and Health, and in this hour one of the most pregnant with self-questionings for Christian Scientists, is this, on page 48, “His students slept.” Many years ago Mrs. Eddy also wrote, on page 95, “Lulled by stupefying illusions, the world is asleep in the cradle of infancy, dreaming away the hours.”

Can it be that the world is not yet awake after fifty years of Christian Science activity? The dawn of a new day came in 1866. Now is the hour of high noon. Christian Scientists who are reading the signs of the times do not permit the enemy to sow tares while they sleep; they are conscious of the supposititious activities which intoxicate one individual or one nation with aggressive mental suggestion, stupefy another with the fumes of intemperance, and fatten still others for a future sacrifice. They rejoice in the protection and power which spiritual understanding brings to those who follow loyally the teachings of Mrs. Eddy.

“Awake thou that sleepest” (excerpt) from Christian Science Sentinel, January 6, 1917 by William D. McCrackan

In John we read: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God … which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” We thus see that from Jesus’ point of view an absolute renunciation of material origin is demanded. So also Copernicus, having discovered a higher sense of the solar system, demanded the renunciation of the old viewpoint, the relinquishment of what for centuries had seemed sure, absolutely true and real. Now his point of view is universally accepted; it has awakened a higher, grander sense of the universe. Any calculation made upon the old supposition that the earth is flat and stationary, would be false, misleading, and confusing. Jesus demanded an equally radical and revolutionary change in the human point of view when he said, “Call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”

“The Ideal Man” (excerpt) from The Christian Science Journal, September 1906 by Sue H. Mims

Born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.—St. John.

In the wondrously beautiful passage which opens the third chapter of the beloved disciple’s First Epistle, he refers to true self–identification as a possible, present experience. “Beloved, now are we the sons of God.”

…material sense readily accepts the proposition that man is a sequence, an unfinished product of evolution; that he is beholden to heredity, environment, natural law, fate. This conclusion of world–philosophy has molded general mentality until men have acquired the habit of obsequiously linking themselves to all sorts of undesirable conditions and things. They identify the “me” with the weakness rather than the strength, the evil rather than the good, of their antecedents, as well as with present susceptibility to the sickness and death from which they long to flee, and to the sin which at a given moment they may either love or hate…

To perennially honor and declare our true individuality, regardless of all sense–seeming and seduction, is to lay hold on that divine idea which is mighty to save. It is to have part in the first resurrection, and it is to fulfil our Leader’s injunction, when she says, “Rise in the strength of Spirit to resist all that is unlike God. He has made man capable of this, and nothing can vitiate the ability and power divinely bestowed” (Science and Health, p. 393).

“The True Self–Identification” (excerpt) from Christian Science Sentinel, March 16, 1899 March 30, 1907 by John B. Willis

Treatment for Pain:

When mesmerized by pain, turn and say: “I know what you are. This is not pain or a belief of pain. It is a belief of mind in matter; a lie of belief without a believer, nothingness claiming to be something. I am not afraid. I am spiritual, and so immune.”

— from Teaching and Addresses by Edward kimball

Thoughts shared on the Lesson from readers:

Isaiah 2 : 22. “Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of? From Spurgeon Commentary:

“Sever yourselves from such a man: Because the days of idols and human pride are coming to an end, it is not wise to associate with those who cling to what will certainly be defeated. We should see that such men are of no account, and walk in the light of the LORD instead.”

i. “What strange sin in us, to make us give more account to men who can only hold as much breath as their nostrils will contain – who depend on every breath for life – than to the LORD God who will shake the earth mightily! It simply makes sense for us to honor and obey God rather to follow men into sin.” “For of what account is he? If men are only men, why do we give so much attention to the opinions of men? Why rise so high on the praise of men, and get so low at their disapproval? We have something – Someone – better to live for.”

ii. “Brethren in Christ, let us think more of God and less of man. Come, let the Lord our God fill the whole horizon of our thoughts. Let our love go forth to him; Iet us delight ourselves in him. Let us trust in him that liveth forever, in him whose promise never faileth, in him who will be with us in life, and in death, and through eternity. Oh that we lived more in the society of Jesus, more in the sight of God! Let man go behind our back, and Satan too. We cannot spend our lives in seeking the smiles of men, for pleasing God is the one object we pursue. Our hands, and our heads, and our hearts, and all that we have and are, find full occupation for the Lord, and therefore we must ‘Cease from man.’” (Spurgeon)

Final Readings

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